[Blacklabcollective] Complaint about Daryl

Fri Sep 16 16:30:12 PDT 2016

I'm ok with whatever decision you all make! I think he does pick up lots of
slack. If he ever gets agro around me I'll call him out but I do that with
anyone else so it's nothing new for me.

On Friday, 16 September 2016, mick mccann <nomoreroads at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think Tara had some solid points. We don't always have to love everyone
> we work with at all times. And if I've ever annoyed any of ye let me know
> :). And I'm not saying I like his attitude or shit he's done at all. as
> I've probably been around him more than anyone of us.  But unless it gets
> out of hand then maybe just keep it as is but be aware incase future things
> arise?
>
> I think they have picked up slack where we haven't been able to of late
> and if Daryl isn't a bottom liner either will jill more than likely.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 4:12 PM, tara myketiak <taramyketiak at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','taramyketiak at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I absolutely second everything Eris said.
> In terms of dropping him as a bottomliner because of his
> moodiness/jerkiness, I don't think we should at this point.  On the one
> hand, its going to be perceived as linked to this drama now whether we want
> it to be or not, and two, We're not doing enough shows, we're not making
> enough money, and Darryl and Jill pick up a lot of the slack that we're all
> collectively dropping. Unless his moodiness gets out of control or comes to
> a point where people don't want to come to shows because of him I don't
> think it merits action. Whether we get along with him enough to keep
> wanting to work with him or have him peripherally involved in the
> collective is something I can't personally speak to yet because I haven't
> hung out with the dude that much. So Idk.
> Also, I'm kind of outraged at the initial message sent by Kate.  Who do
> people think we are?? The drama mediators/police? Why is this city so
> fucking annoying right now!!!!!!
> Love you all though, for real.
> tara
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aanjusingh at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> I am talking to Jill at 4:30 today.
>>
>> I also told Kate that she has to deal with the shit talk herself.
>>
>> My main reason for suggesting that we remove Daryl as a bottomliner is
>> more related to his moodiness and anger that the collective might not want
>> to deal with.
>>
>> Personally, I had no intentions of dropping him as a friend. I honestly
>> just don't want to be involved.
>>
>> It's up to you all, I just made a suggestion.
>>
>> Anju
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 16 September 2016, Eris Nyx <erisnyx at hotmail.ca
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','erisnyx at hotmail.ca');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, this email blew my mind.
>>>
>>> I don't think it's our responsibility to do anything at this point tbh.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that people are mad at him for talking shit about their
>>> band and are trying to get revenge. I think that seems a bit absurd.
>>> Personally, I think both WANT and Black Pills are not very good - should I
>>> be banned for not having team spirit?
>>>
>>> Furthermore, if Jill doesn't feel like she's being abused why should we
>>> believe someone's outside perspective on their relationship over the people
>>> in the relationship? I think someone should at least talk to her about what
>>> happened before we do anything. And if we're going to do something we
>>> should probably try working with him before we ban him (we don't do that
>>> remember).
>>>
>>> Also, people are mad at him for his band being named HARM? Do you know
>>> how absurd that is? If we're going to police band names that hard we
>>> shouldn't allow half the people who play our space to play there.
>>>
>>>
>>> Can't wait for my $50 000 record contract to come in so I can invest in
>>> a space program and build a venue on the surface of the sun.
>>>
>>> (The last sentence was a joke).
>>>
>>> Ugh.
>>> -Eris
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Blacklabcollective <blacklabcollective-bounces at lists.resist.ca>
>>> on behalf of Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* September 16, 2016 2:40 PM
>>> *To:* blacklabcollective at lists.resist.ca
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Blacklabcollective] Complaint about Daryl
>>>
>>> Thanks for your comment, how do you feel about the suggestion I made in
>>> the email as an action?
>>>
>>>
>>> "For now, I don't think Daryl should bottomline any shows beyond what he
>>> has been assigned to. I've heard he's quite moody, dramatic and can be a
>>> dick. That said most people who say this don't think he's abusive, but
>>> rather just a really negative person. To stay on the safe side, I think we
>>> should drop him as a bottomliner?"
>>> bd
>>> Anju
>>>
>>> On Friday, 16 September 2016, mick mccann <nomoreroads at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks and I'm sorry you had to be the one to have to hear the
>>>> complaint. I personally do find him negative and never has a good thing to
>>>> say about anyone but do think Jill is great. I already spoke to him last wk
>>>> about him insulting people i care about infront of me.
>>>>
>>>> But again this is just my personal opinion and should not have to
>>>> affect the black lab or members. I have heard from others that he is
>>>> somewhat possessive From others but unless Jill tells me Im not sure what
>>>> do to as I don't want to feel like making decisions without her if that
>>>> makes sense.
>>>>
>>>> its def annoying and hard to deal with everyone in the scenes problems.
>>>> Unless someone feels unsafe in the venue of course. Kate is one of my best
>>>> friends so I'm trying to remove my ego and bias from the situation.
>>>> Tonight will be great! And I'm sorry ye all have to be involved in
>>>> everything that happens in the Vancouver punk.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> > On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:39 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Heads up that we received a complaint about Daryl being emotionally
>>>> abusive to Jill and being an asshole. Also the same person expressed
>>>> concern with their band name - Harm and the concept of talking about
>>>> self-harm which is triggering.
>>>> >
>>>> > The person who sent the concern sent it to me and Lindsay, and it was
>>>> sent by Kate from Want.
>>>> >
>>>> > Kate has two concerns:
>>>> >
>>>> > "-he's an asshole who's talking shit about me [Kate], my partner
>>>> [Andrew from black pills], and my band [WANT]
>>>> > -he's a legit abuser and Jill is his victim"
>>>> >
>>>> > Jill doesn't feel like a victim but I'm hoping to talk to her in
>>>> person to feel the situation out better.
>>>> >
>>>> > For now, I don't think Daryl should bottomline any shows beyond what
>>>> he has been assigned to. I've heard he's quite moody, dramatic and can be a
>>>> dick. That said most people who say this don't think he's abusive, but
>>>> rather just a really negative person. To stay on the safe side, I think we
>>>> should drop him as a bottomliner?
>>>> >
>>>> > I also am fucking flabbergasted that people can't talk to eachother
>>>> and work out their own fucking problems. I'm not mad thatKate  brought this
>>>> up, I think she did what she thought was best but I'm also confused why
>>>> people come to us so much. I feel like the shit talk is really between
>>>> them, and it's Vancouver, shit talk is as normal as the rain.
>>>> >
>>>> > Positive thing is this asserts why I need to step away from the
>>>> space. Away from scene shit. Ideally off a cliff.
>>>> >
>>>> > (Obviously last sentence is a joke...)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Anju Singh
>>>> >
>>>> >
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