[Blacklabcollective] Divide and Dissolve showo
Anju Singh
aanjusingh at gmail.com
Tue May 24 11:56:46 PDT 2016
And it also feels a little tokenistic, one poc with a big voice is
valuable, I completely disagree and find it insulting to suggest there
aren't "enough" poc on the collective for the sake of poc on the
collective, a good fit, and dedication are essential.
Anju
On Tuesday, 24 May 2016, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
> I find it pretty fucking offensive that this person is bitching about
> racial diversity in our collective. I have tried, and my contributions are
> still very valid and take up lots of space and I work really hard to take
> up that space, if that person (who - are they a poc??) has concerns maybe
> they can talk to me about my experience in the collective and my work and
> efforts to maintain diversity and that voices are heard.
>
> The rest sounds awful too. The race thing is a personal point.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 24 May 2016, Austin Simpson <waustinsimpson at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','waustinsimpson at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> The whole thing about race, while a VERY REAL THING in the wider scope of
>> punk rock, in the context of the conversation felt like a red herring. This
>> wasn't about race, it was about Tekiaya's friend fucking up big time, and
>> we got the shit end of the stick because they didn't want to yell at Kim.
>>
>> On May 24, 2016 9:43 AM, "Megan Speers" <speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> > yea. just echoing austin's sentiments. I'm pretty pissed about how that
>> played out, and once i cool down a bit i'll be getting in touch with Kim to
>> let them know that it was super not ok.
>> >
>> > to be clear, what happened was that Kim did not check in with or ask
>> about what our money policy is at all. i think because they've done shows
>> at black lab before we probably assumed that they had an understanding of
>> that already, but evidently they either forgot or didn't think it was
>> important to ask/communicate this.... so when the end of the night rolled
>> around, they asked what the money policy and paid the bands, and the guitar
>> player from divide and dissolve, tekiaya, was quite unhappy with the amount
>> that they were paid. i tried to have a conversation with her and explain
>> why we take a cut of the door, etc., and apologized that the policy wasn't
>> communicated in advance (though it wasn't my actions that caused this...).
>> she then had a litany of complaints, felt that the policy isn't
>> sustainable, that we as a mostly white collective should have access to
>> money through grants and so forth and basically felt that we are sketchy,
>> that we have bad sound, and that she would never play at black lab again.
>> she was extremely unhappy with the situation, and ranted at me for a pretty
>> long time about a variety of things. I guess the most relevant thing she
>> was upset about is the lack of racial diversity on the collective, that is
>> definitely something that rung true in among the other things she was upset
>> about. anyways as far as that actual conversation goes, i can debrief in
>> more detail when we have our meeting (she requested that i do so).
>> >
>> > HOWEVER. having said all that. kim fucked up big time and it really
>> wasn't ok. obviously as the promoter it was their responsibility to check
>> in about money, to communicate this to the bands, and to ensure they were
>> comfortable with it. had they asked, we could have easily let them know
>> that monday night shows are pretty tough and don't make a lot of money,
>> they basically dropped the ball repeatedly (not to mention what austin said
>> above). they also chose to put on purple hearts social club, despite them
>> needing to also get paid, which they didn't tell us til the end of the
>> night (they are a local group and there were already two touring bands,
>> monday night, would have advised against that for sure). on top of that,
>> while this conversation was happening with tekiaya, they completely lacked
>> any accountability for their actions, and just wandered around dealing with
>> gear instead of speaking up (they definitely were aware of the fact that
>> that was what tekiaya was speaking to me about) and admitting that they
>> were responsible for the money communication... leaving me holding the bag
>> and apologizing for something that wasn't my doing. they came up to me
>> after tekiaya had walked away and dismissively said "i guess that's my
>> fault, sorry" but considering the dynamics of the situation it wasn't
>> really an appropriate response.
>> >
>> > i'm sorry for the long and ranty email, but i'm very upset at how that
>> played out, because of kim's actions i basically got to get reamed out by a
>> total stranger. and they at no point attempted to have my back or mediate
>> the situation, which they are in a very good position to do as the promoter
>> of the show and a friend of the person who was unhappy with the outcome of
>> the show.
>> >
>> > basically i am never going to work with kim again, and am probably
>> going to avoid even attending any more of their events. it sucked. im
>> bummed.
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Austin Simpson <
>> waustinsimpson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> So, last night we made $169. I picked up beer and cider, and we didn't
>> sell that much so we're pretty stocked up.
>> >>
>> >> I'm pretty angry about how this show went. Kim didn't contact me until
>> the morning of the show, did NOT have enough volunteers, and basically
>> just dropped the ball hard. At the end of the night they left Megan and I
>> to be yelled at by the members of Divide and Dissolve because we took 50%
>> of the door, and took no responsibility for their shitty promoting. I'm not
>> particularly interested in doing shows for that band or for Kim any more.
>> >>
>> >>
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