[Blacklabcollective] Banning and burn out

[tara myketiak]

Yup, I agree wholeheartedly with Megan. And I;m sorry to hear you're
feeling so burnt out Anju. This shit is so exhausting sometimes, that's how
I'm feeling right now.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Lindsay Kasting <l.kasting86 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thank you Megan. And yeah I think we've discussed a number of time not
> banning people as a policy. Kicking people out for shitty behaviours, sure,
> but banning is ridiculous, we aren't punk cops. See you all tomorrow. Take
> care anju. Xo
>
>
>
> On Jun 21, 2016, at 10:45 AM, mick mccann <nomoreroads at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I agree, if he's asked to leave he should leave. I also agree with  Megan
> that it would be great if we could take on things like banning and having
> long meetings over diff people who are shitty but all of us have so much
> shit going on and the black lab although we love it is barely making
> priority as we're all so busy in life. So we can't monitor everything that
> happens in the scene. But should always remain a safe space still
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 21, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Not that that's directed at you Anju!!! Just a general thing.
> On Jun 21, 2016 10:35 AM, "Megan Speers" <speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For sure. And I mean I don't care. I'm not friends with him at all and
>> it's because of his long illustrious history. If someone wants to kick him
>> out that's fine w me. I am just sick of the expectation that we as a
>> collective need to take on everyone's shit. It's annoying.
>> On Jun 21, 2016 10:32 AM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That said if he gets asked to leave he should leave.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 21 June 2016, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We can talk about it at the meeting but our policy isn't to ban
>>>> people... in general I think ppl need to realize it isn't our
>>>> responsibility as a venue to manage every negative social interaction and
>>>> beef that arises. I'm also feeling the burnout and am gona talk about a
>>>> hiatus at the meeting.
>>>> On Jun 21, 2016 10:18 AM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok good call
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 21 June 2016, mick mccann <nomoreroads at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I totally understand where youre coming from anju! Life and the
>>>>>> problems people bring to us although all valid can be way too much to take
>>>>>> on at times.
>>>>>>  So the meeting tomorrow we'll talk about the foat banning and the
>>>>>> woman playing the iskra gig who someone has a problem with I guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey everyone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not a caregiving type (hence, I'm a technician and don't answer
>>>>>>> my phone) so I'm burning the fuck out on taking care of Graham (it has been
>>>>>>> 1 of 7 weeks). I am dropping everything on my plate that isn't my own
>>>>>>> art/music/volunteer work with other poc until September because I can't
>>>>>>> keep up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm bottomlining tonight, Tara is bottomlining the iskra show in
>>>>>>> July I'm promoting, and then that should be it for my black lab stuff. I
>>>>>>> won't be going out much in the next while either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm also unable to take on more sensitive stuff like banning, there
>>>>>>> is someone who doesn't want to be named who says that Foat should be banned
>>>>>>> from black lab and doesn't want him at the next shows. My answer wasn't
>>>>>>> good, I just said, ok ban him, and they said how can I enforce it and I
>>>>>>> said why do we have to enforce it, and then I was like oh, damn I'm so
>>>>>>> burnt out I don't care and they were like ok, but then take it to the
>>>>>>> collective and I agreed. They don't feel comfortable talking to anyone and
>>>>>>> just said they wanted the collective to know that a group of people don't
>>>>>>> want him at shows. Anonymity is important to them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also received a complaint about a girl playing the iskra show, but
>>>>>>> again I was like i can't take it on so if anyone wants to navigate that for
>>>>>>> me, id appreciate it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Going to a cabin on Friday, really need that right now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anju
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Anju Singh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Anju Singh
>>>>>
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