[Blacklabcollective] Banning and burn out

[Lindsay Kasting]

Thank you Megan. And yeah I think we've discussed a number of time not banning people as a policy. Kicking people out for shitty behaviours, sure, but banning is ridiculous, we aren't punk cops. See you all tomorrow. Take care anju. Xo



> On Jun 21, 2016, at 10:45 AM, mick mccann <nomoreroads at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I agree, if he's asked to leave he should leave. I also agree with  Megan that it would be great if we could take on things like banning and having long meetings over diff people who are shitty but all of us have so much shit going on and the black lab although we love it is barely making priority as we're all so busy in life. So we can't monitor everything that happens in the scene. But should always remain a safe space still 
> 
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>> On Jun 21, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Not that that's directed at you Anju!!! Just a general thing.
>> 
>>> On Jun 21, 2016 10:35 AM, "Megan Speers" <speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> For sure. And I mean I don't care. I'm not friends with him at all and it's because of his long illustrious history. If someone wants to kick him out that's fine w me. I am just sick of the expectation that we as a collective need to take on everyone's shit. It's annoying.
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2016 10:32 AM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> That said if he gets asked to leave he should leave. 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tuesday, 21 June 2016, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> We can talk about it at the meeting but our policy isn't to ban people... in general I think ppl need to realize it isn't our responsibility as a venue to manage every negative social interaction and beef that arises. I'm also feeling the burnout and am gona talk about a hiatus at the meeting.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2016 10:18 AM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Ok good call 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 21 June 2016, mick mccann <nomoreroads at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I totally understand where youre coming from anju! Life and the problems people bring to us although all valid can be way too much to take on at times.
>>>>>>>  So the meeting tomorrow we'll talk about the foat banning and the woman playing the iskra gig who someone has a problem with I guess.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hey everyone 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm not a caregiving type (hence, I'm a technician and don't answer my phone) so I'm burning the fuck out on taking care of Graham (it has been 1 of 7 weeks). I am dropping everything on my plate that isn't my own art/music/volunteer work with other poc until September because I can't keep up.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm bottomlining tonight, Tara is bottomlining the iskra show in July I'm promoting, and then that should be it for my black lab stuff. I won't be going out much in the next while either.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm also unable to take on more sensitive stuff like banning, there is someone who doesn't want to be named who says that Foat should be banned from black lab and doesn't want him at the next shows. My answer wasn't good, I just said, ok ban him, and they said how can I enforce it and I said why do we have to enforce it, and then I was like oh, damn I'm so burnt out I don't care and they were like ok, but then take it to the collective and I agreed. They don't feel comfortable talking to anyone and just said they wanted the collective to know that a group of people don't want him at shows. Anonymity is important to them. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I also received a complaint about a girl playing the iskra show, but again I was like i can't take it on so if anyone wants to navigate that for me, id appreciate it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Going to a cabin on Friday, really need that right now. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Anju
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Anju Singh
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