[Blacklabcollective] Venue Models

[Rafael "Cabeza" Manrique]

Awesome lets check this models out next time we meet (with Anju)
Rafael.

2015-05-02 11:40 GMT-07:00 Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com>:

> Hey anju! thanks for compiling this list, this is very useful.
> I definitely agree with the idea of feeding bands and hooking them up with
> a drink or drinks, I think that's a nice way to support folks on tour,
> especially cause i imagine having a decent healthy-ish home cooked meal (or
> just not having to figure out what/where to eat, esp in the dtes where
> there aren't tons of options) on the road is probably appreciated by most.
>
> As far as these models go, I agree that model 3 is the worst. that would
> mean paying out bands even less than we do now, which obviously is not the
> direction we want to be going in.
>
> I'm very intrigued by model 4, actually, more than the others. I like the
> idea that it allows bands to get paid a set amount, but that it doesn't
> mean that smaller bands with more of a niche draw (eg. noise or grind, or
> less-known queer bands, etc) don't get totally shafted if fewer people show
> up. I'm not entirely sure how this type of model would affect our finances
> at the moment, but I like the idea. I'm also open to models 1 or 2, but 4
> was the one that really stood out to me as being a nice balanced model.
> I'll try to keep these in mind over the next couple months and do some
> math and see how it would affect our finances, and then we can reconvene
> and discuss our options. :)
>
> and thanks again anju for putting this together! if anyone else has any
> models that are different than these that they think are options we can
> work toward feel free to send them in this thread.
>
> cheers yall
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone, here are some venue models that I promised I would send
>> over to you all to consider.
>>
>> Feeding bands and giving them a drink during travel is something I feel
>> strongly about.
>>
>> Another thing that other venues do is to pay back promoters for posters,
>> and this comes off the top too, so before money is split up.
>>
>> MODEL 1 - Guarantees
>> -Guarantee is determined in advance
>> -Some venues will not pay out more than guarantee, some will
>> -Food
>> -Minimum 1-2 drinks
>>
>> MODEL 2 - "Door Deal"
>> -bands take "entire" door (that can be percentage or full door.. but it
>> basically means you get what we make)
>> -food is not so common, but i would recommend we make feeding touring
>> bands standard
>> -drinks are provided because the band doesn't make money from the bar
>>
>> MODEL 3 - RedGate Model
>> -door and bar profits are pooled
>> -staffing/venue costs are set and subtracted
>> -the profits are split 50% between venue and band
>> -no food
>> -no drinks
>> (i'm not a fan of this model)
>>
>> MODEL 4 - Fixed Amount regardless of bands
>> -every touring band who plays there gets paid an exact amount, ex. $250.
>> -The remaining money is put into a pool that the venue keeps for artist
>> pay
>> -this ensures that all touring bands are paid fairly, equally, regardless
>> of draw
>> -encourages financial support of outsider music
>> -makes it easy to book bands with an agreed guarantee
>> -in the case of two touring bands, each band would receive the same
>> amount ($250 per band, not per show).
>> -food and drinks provided
>>
>> MODEL 5 - Door/Bar Split (secret location/garbage mountain/jabba's model)
>> -Venue takes bar profit
>> -Full Door goes to bands (minus costs)
>> -Door must pay out a rental fee out of band money, promoter is paid back
>> for posters, cook is paid back for food costs
>> -ie
>>
>> MODEL 6 - version of all models - Local bands
>> In many of these models, local bands are paid as well, though a small
>> percentage
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Anju Singh
>>
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