[Blacklabcollective] Venue Models

[Megan Speers]

Hey anju! thanks for compiling this list, this is very useful.
I definitely agree with the idea of feeding bands and hooking them up with
a drink or drinks, I think that's a nice way to support folks on tour,
especially cause i imagine having a decent healthy-ish home cooked meal (or
just not having to figure out what/where to eat, esp in the dtes where
there aren't tons of options) on the road is probably appreciated by most.

As far as these models go, I agree that model 3 is the worst. that would
mean paying out bands even less than we do now, which obviously is not the
direction we want to be going in.

I'm very intrigued by model 4, actually, more than the others. I like the
idea that it allows bands to get paid a set amount, but that it doesn't
mean that smaller bands with more of a niche draw (eg. noise or grind, or
less-known queer bands, etc) don't get totally shafted if fewer people show
up. I'm not entirely sure how this type of model would affect our finances
at the moment, but I like the idea. I'm also open to models 1 or 2, but 4
was the one that really stood out to me as being a nice balanced model.
I'll try to keep these in mind over the next couple months and do some math
and see how it would affect our finances, and then we can reconvene and
discuss our options. :)

and thanks again anju for putting this together! if anyone else has any
models that are different than these that they think are options we can
work toward feel free to send them in this thread.

cheers yall

On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey everyone, here are some venue models that I promised I would send over
> to you all to consider.
>
> Feeding bands and giving them a drink during travel is something I feel
> strongly about.
>
> Another thing that other venues do is to pay back promoters for posters,
> and this comes off the top too, so before money is split up.
>
> MODEL 1 - Guarantees
> -Guarantee is determined in advance
> -Some venues will not pay out more than guarantee, some will
> -Food
> -Minimum 1-2 drinks
>
> MODEL 2 - "Door Deal"
> -bands take "entire" door (that can be percentage or full door.. but it
> basically means you get what we make)
> -food is not so common, but i would recommend we make feeding touring
> bands standard
> -drinks are provided because the band doesn't make money from the bar
>
> MODEL 3 - RedGate Model
> -door and bar profits are pooled
> -staffing/venue costs are set and subtracted
> -the profits are split 50% between venue and band
> -no food
> -no drinks
> (i'm not a fan of this model)
>
> MODEL 4 - Fixed Amount regardless of bands
> -every touring band who plays there gets paid an exact amount, ex. $250.
> -The remaining money is put into a pool that the venue keeps for artist pay
> -this ensures that all touring bands are paid fairly, equally, regardless
> of draw
> -encourages financial support of outsider music
> -makes it easy to book bands with an agreed guarantee
> -in the case of two touring bands, each band would receive the same amount
> ($250 per band, not per show).
> -food and drinks provided
>
> MODEL 5 - Door/Bar Split (secret location/garbage mountain/jabba's model)
> -Venue takes bar profit
> -Full Door goes to bands (minus costs)
> -Door must pay out a rental fee out of band money, promoter is paid back
> for posters, cook is paid back for food costs
> -ie
>
> MODEL 6 - version of all models - Local bands
> In many of these models, local bands are paid as well, though a small
> percentage
>
>
>
> --
> Anju Singh
>
>
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