[Blacklabcollective] Saturday events

Fri Jul 31 13:01:52 PDT 2015

Thanks for your perspective. I understand your sentiment for wanting to be
a space for positive stuff to happen. My concern is that doing this weekly
and providing keys feels like an overcommitment. I believe we can "do more
than be just a venue" in other ways too that don't require giving keys to a
group and/or having a weekly responsibility.

I have suggestions : can someone bottomline these weekly, OR can we offer
something more sustainable (a monthly workshop?) and have someone
bottomline those?

I'm interested in workshops more than bottom lining shows, and I have
proven that by attempting to do different projects. I would happily teach a
computer course for locals, resume writing or host a discussion group or
facilitate a once a month meeting like this, but weekly, I think it's an
overcommitment.

Those are my thoughts maybe talk to others in person for their thoughts?

On Friday, July 31, 2015, Brendan Plummer <brendan.plummer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey,
>
> I feel like I have been doing a lot of emotional labour around the
> Saturday meetings. Because of my emotional investment in it, and also my
> desire for the Black Lab to be more than a venue, I can't help but feel
> under siege from the folks in the collective who don't want the meetings to
> happen.
>
> And I agree, it doesn't make anyone 'bad' to not want the meetings,
> although I think there are differences in terms of ideals/vision for what
> the Black Lab could be *about*. I understand people not wanting to take
> on the role of managing the thing, and I was hoping giving Wendy keys would
> alleviate some of the time necessary to facilitate the meetings. Folks have
> multiple other projects/bands going on, and there isn't a lot of space or
> incentive/social capital for the thankless task of helping facilitate
> community events. So let's be realistic, and let Wendy know asap if we want
> to shut it down. She mentioned that they may have another space available
> in the fall, and although she loves the Black Lab because people feel
> comfortable and it has a great location it will not be the end of the world
> to pull the plug on the SRO collaborative if that will ease people's minds.
>
> That won't actually do anything about the rats though, and I agree that it
> should be the landlord's responsibility to deal with pests. So in a lot of
> ways that means that we need to talk about how to broach that one,
> especially with a pending visit from Michael. And that's another
> conversation.
>
> Anyways, I need to laundry but thanks for the response and sorry about the
> emailing ...
>
> <3 B.
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aanjusingh at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Hey Brenden,
>>
>> Ya the smell is pretty bad (what happened to your car?).
>>
>> I asked my co-worker about landlord responsibility in commercial units,
>> pests are one of them.
>>
>> It's not healthy or safe for us to try to clean and resolve a rat
>> problem, we need to bring in professional cleaners and pest control (if we
>> want). Also I recognize that smell sort of, is it possible there is a dead
>> rat in the back somewhere?
>>
>> Yea it's gross :(
>>
>> And regarding Saturday's, the many containers of sour cream in the fridge
>> is confusing, and yes there was a mess.
>>
>> I'm sorry you feel like you are defending it, but we do need to discuss
>> when things happen, and you shouldn't have to defend it!! But also maybe
>> it's ok for us to decide what will happen if we don't have the people to
>> manage the project or if we decide to wait to find someone to bottom line
>> the sessions instead of giving out keys. It doesn't make us bad people, it
>> makes us realistic.
>>
>> On Friday, July 31, 2015, Brendan Plummer <brendan.plummer at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','brendan.plummer at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> Just to be clear: the sour cream containers were left out? Or in the
>>> fridge? I did a quick sweep of the space on Monday eve and things looked
>>> the same as they were prior to the meeting last Saturday.
>>>
>>> When I went down on Saturday to  clean/set up, things were pretty messed
>>> up from someone leaving food garbage another day (not a saturday, because
>>> it was someones takeout garbage). My tool bags got shit in and pissed on
>>> and I am so sick of that smell because of what happened to my car ... so I
>>> am not stoked on any of this.
>>>
>>> Anyways, if there was food garbage left out I will let Wendy know. She
>>> should have known because we were definitely talking about rats as we
>>> cleaned up rat shit on Saturday morning. And I don't know what's up with
>>> the food in the fridge either, that can't be a thing.
>>>
>>> There are no meetings for the month of August, so perhaps we should
>>> revisit this at a meeting. I am getting a little weary of defending this,
>>> if I am the only person that cares then what's the point of continuing when
>>> I am gone?
>>>
>>> Again, sorry about not ensuring things were legit in the fridge. I have
>>> had a busy week and haven't been super present in relating to the space
>>> over the course of the past few days. I hope the show went well last night,
>>> talk soon.
>>>
>>> B.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Jul 30, 2015, at 6:38 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > hey everyone
>>> >
>>> > I'm not convinced by the Saturday space use without a collective
>>> member cleaning up after, there are like 8 containers of sour cream in th
>>> kitchen and the kitchen is a total mess. It stinks like rat piss, there was
>>> a shirt left behind, I'm not 100% sure about this...
>>> >
>>> > The food in the fridge takes away space for beer, it's not really cool
>>> :(
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Anju Singh
>>> >
>>> >
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>>
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>> Anju Singh
>>
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