[Blacklabcollective] September shows, Collective Members?

Anju Singh aanjusingh at gmail.com
Sun Aug 23 01:27:32 PDT 2015


Cool thanks!

On Saturday, August 22, 2015, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:

> oh ok, word! its hard to keep track sometimes! thats cool. lets keep it to
> that then. i just dont wana add a shit ton of people or whatever.
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aanjusingh at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Here are the minutes where we approved to ask, and I was assigned to ask
>> Mike/Mick..
>>
>> When he didnt make that meeting, folks told me to invite him to the next
>> meeting..
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aanjusingh at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Megan! Mike was asked a while ago but he just didn't make that last
>>> meeting, we discussed adding him, Jakob, and Tara to the collective! It was
>>> my job to ask Mike and if you remember, we were all a little disappointed
>>> that he didn't attend that meeting!
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','speers.megan at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> just to clarify - i would prefer if we could talk about the possibility
>>>> of adding new members or bottomliners and figure out a solution before we
>>>> invite anyone else to join the collective right away. i dont know if anyone
>>>> invited mike or anything but i'm very partial to adding bottomliners over
>>>> collective members and i'd prefer to discuss it with the existing
>>>> collective without new folks there if possible! just to be straightforward
>>>> about my thoughts on this, in case i wasnt before.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','speers.megan at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have pretty strong opinions on this but I think we can figure
>>>>> something out that works for everyone at the meeting :)
>>>>> On Aug 19, 2015 11:50 PM, "Lindsay Kasting" <l.kasting86 at gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','l.kasting86 at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah and someone who knows the space/our policies & history is around
>>>>>> if anything happens that requires quick thinking or leaning on past
>>>>>> experience. But yeah lining up volunteers and prep/tear down would fall on
>>>>>> the bottom liner. Idk, let's chat at the meeting.
>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2015 11:16 PM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aanjusingh at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh ya you're right!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Though (just to make sure we are thinking through details, not to be
>>>>>>> contrarian!), what exactly would the "security" role entail? Can it mean
>>>>>>> just showing up when the show begins and leaving when it ends? If it means
>>>>>>> more than that, then are we just doubling the bottomliner role, and
>>>>>>> therefore not reducing work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it's just to show up at 8 when  the show starts and end at 11pm
>>>>>>> when it ends, then you're right, that kind of does work because it is less
>>>>>>> work. The bottomliner would then take care of all setup/cleanup - correct?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Lindsay Kasting <
>>>>>>> l.kasting86 at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','l.kasting86 at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought that even with outside bottom liners we were still going
>>>>>>>> to try to have a collective member on security or in some other capacity to
>>>>>>>> kind of keep an eye? But leave them to handle the show and volunteers and
>>>>>>>> shit?
>>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2015 10:18 PM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aanjusingh at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One major obstacle I saw in the Bottomliner Group, is that we
>>>>>>>>> would definitely want anyone bottomlining shows at meetings. That's where
>>>>>>>>> we decide on better process/make changes, talk about previous incidents,
>>>>>>>>> and strategize for gigs. I would feel weird about handing over
>>>>>>>>> keys/responsibility and not have communication with folks. And I think we
>>>>>>>>> would want communication with them on the email list, for example, in case
>>>>>>>>> someone gets sick and can't bottomline show or in case something serious
>>>>>>>>> happens, and even to get the numbers at the end of the night submitted for
>>>>>>>>> the collective to see how the night went.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While I understand that adding more collective members opens up
>>>>>>>>> potential for more complications, I'm not sure how we would have a
>>>>>>>>> bottomliner group that is not part of the collective. I'm open to ideas
>>>>>>>>> though :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One potential solution I thought of is that Meetings would be TWO
>>>>>>>>> HOURS every time, the first hour would be entirely a financial check-in,
>>>>>>>>> shows check-in and proposals. The second hour would be the remaining
>>>>>>>>> business.  The first hour is for all members, the second hour is for the
>>>>>>>>> Collective only (*this is not too different than Red Gate's model, in a
>>>>>>>>> way, and it works there and they like it).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The question I have about that model is that considering what our
>>>>>>>>> usual later topics are (mostly maintenance work :/), maybe it would
>>>>>>>>> actually be beneficial to keep people on, because we need more help I
>>>>>>>>> think..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just throwing out there a main complication that might make the
>>>>>>>>> bottomliner group not really a helpful category of members for us.. but I'm
>>>>>>>>> totally open to thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Brendan Plummer <
>>>>>>>>> brendan.plummer at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','brendan.plummer at gmail.com');>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah there's also another september show proposed but I don't
>>>>>>>>>> really want it so much. But if we needed shows we could do the TV UGLY tape
>>>>>>>>>> release show on September 10. Let me know if anyone wants that, but I am
>>>>>>>>>> focusing on the 13th if people are down.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Talk soon,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> B.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aanjusingh at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it significantly improved for sure :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Megan Speers <
>>>>>>>>>> speers.megan at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','speers.megan at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> im more into revisiting the idea of outside bottomliners to be
>>>>>>>>>>> honest. i think we have a solid crew and we should keep it kind of tight.
>>>>>>>>>>> BUT it would be cool to have other people putting on shows who we trust and
>>>>>>>>>>> i do trust bryans judgment on that front. and actually september is
>>>>>>>>>>> starting to shape up a bit, if the shows proposed (brendan's show on the
>>>>>>>>>>> 13th and bryans show on the 17th) get approved we'll have about 5 shows in
>>>>>>>>>>> sept. not bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:00 PM, tara myketiak <
>>>>>>>>>>> taramyketiak at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','taramyketiak at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm into more members if it means more people to take on work,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I can help out w/ the show on Sept 17th but that and the anniversary
>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend is probably all I can commit to time-wise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Anju Singh <
>>>>>>>>>>>> aanjusingh at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aanjusingh at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never mind he can't move the 333 show he feels bad about doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.. So never mind!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aanjusingh at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bryan also told me he has two shows for September, one is for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 333 I asked him to do it at black lab and he says he prefers it anyway so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sept 9th for raw nerves from Portland and sept 17th for not a cost from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victoria are his shows. Full lineups coming!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Lindsay Kasting <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> l.kasting86 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have that Silent Era show on Sept 5 (which is creeping up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real fast) and if anyone could help me find some opening bands I'd really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciate it. Everyone I ask keeps saying no. Ther're a good band and I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love to see them get a good show! And apparently we need gigs for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> September. So maybe if anyone can help or feels like they might want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take it on? I'm kind of realizing that booking bills may not be my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strongest skill set.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Anju Singh <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm feeling like we may need some more shows for September.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have the party (which I believe will only be the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday now), but that might not make more than a usual show, and we have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a couple other shows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need some more gigs for September.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also, we need some more folks involved I think to make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this stuff happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How would everyone feel about recruiting more collective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> members? Legs is away, I'm really taking a back seat, Lindsay handles a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of maintenance stuff, so we are pretty limited in active show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bookers/bottomliners.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anju Singh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anju Singh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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