[Blacklabcollective] September shows, Collective Members?

Sat Aug 22 19:29:29 PDT 2015

oh ok, word! its hard to keep track sometimes! thats cool. lets keep it to
that then. i just dont wana add a shit ton of people or whatever.

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here are the minutes where we approved to ask, and I was assigned to ask
> Mike/Mick..
>
> When he didnt make that meeting, folks told me to invite him to the next
> meeting..
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Megan! Mike was asked a while ago but he just didn't make that last
>> meeting, we discussed adding him, Jakob, and Tara to the collective! It was
>> my job to ask Mike and if you remember, we were all a little disappointed
>> that he didn't attend that meeting!
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> just to clarify - i would prefer if we could talk about the possibility
>>> of adding new members or bottomliners and figure out a solution before we
>>> invite anyone else to join the collective right away. i dont know if anyone
>>> invited mike or anything but i'm very partial to adding bottomliners over
>>> collective members and i'd prefer to discuss it with the existing
>>> collective without new folks there if possible! just to be straightforward
>>> about my thoughts on this, in case i wasnt before.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have pretty strong opinions on this but I think we can figure
>>>> something out that works for everyone at the meeting :)
>>>> On Aug 19, 2015 11:50 PM, "Lindsay Kasting" <l.kasting86 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah and someone who knows the space/our policies & history is around
>>>>> if anything happens that requires quick thinking or leaning on past
>>>>> experience. But yeah lining up volunteers and prep/tear down would fall on
>>>>> the bottom liner. Idk, let's chat at the meeting.
>>>>> On Aug 19, 2015 11:16 PM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh ya you're right!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Though (just to make sure we are thinking through details, not to be
>>>>>> contrarian!), what exactly would the "security" role entail? Can it mean
>>>>>> just showing up when the show begins and leaving when it ends? If it means
>>>>>> more than that, then are we just doubling the bottomliner role, and
>>>>>> therefore not reducing work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it's just to show up at 8 when  the show starts and end at 11pm
>>>>>> when it ends, then you're right, that kind of does work because it is less
>>>>>> work. The bottomliner would then take care of all setup/cleanup - correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Lindsay Kasting <
>>>>>> l.kasting86 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought that even with outside bottom liners we were still going
>>>>>>> to try to have a collective member on security or in some other capacity to
>>>>>>> kind of keep an eye? But leave them to handle the show and volunteers and
>>>>>>> shit?
>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2015 10:18 PM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One major obstacle I saw in the Bottomliner Group, is that we would
>>>>>>>> definitely want anyone bottomlining shows at meetings. That's where we
>>>>>>>> decide on better process/make changes, talk about previous incidents, and
>>>>>>>> strategize for gigs. I would feel weird about handing over
>>>>>>>> keys/responsibility and not have communication with folks. And I think we
>>>>>>>> would want communication with them on the email list, for example, in case
>>>>>>>> someone gets sick and can't bottomline show or in case something serious
>>>>>>>> happens, and even to get the numbers at the end of the night submitted for
>>>>>>>> the collective to see how the night went.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While I understand that adding more collective members opens up
>>>>>>>> potential for more complications, I'm not sure how we would have a
>>>>>>>> bottomliner group that is not part of the collective. I'm open to ideas
>>>>>>>> though :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One potential solution I thought of is that Meetings would be TWO
>>>>>>>> HOURS every time, the first hour would be entirely a financial check-in,
>>>>>>>> shows check-in and proposals. The second hour would be the remaining
>>>>>>>> business.  The first hour is for all members, the second hour is for the
>>>>>>>> Collective only (*this is not too different than Red Gate's model, in a
>>>>>>>> way, and it works there and they like it).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The question I have about that model is that considering what our
>>>>>>>> usual later topics are (mostly maintenance work :/), maybe it would
>>>>>>>> actually be beneficial to keep people on, because we need more help I
>>>>>>>> think..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just throwing out there a main complication that might make the
>>>>>>>> bottomliner group not really a helpful category of members for us.. but I'm
>>>>>>>> totally open to thoughts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Brendan Plummer <
>>>>>>>> brendan.plummer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah there's also another september show proposed but I don't
>>>>>>>>> really want it so much. But if we needed shows we could do the TV UGLY tape
>>>>>>>>> release show on September 10. Let me know if anyone wants that, but I am
>>>>>>>>> focusing on the 13th if people are down.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Talk soon,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> B.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, it significantly improved for sure :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Megan Speers <
>>>>>>>>> speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> im more into revisiting the idea of outside bottomliners to be
>>>>>>>>>> honest. i think we have a solid crew and we should keep it kind of tight.
>>>>>>>>>> BUT it would be cool to have other people putting on shows who we trust and
>>>>>>>>>> i do trust bryans judgment on that front. and actually september is
>>>>>>>>>> starting to shape up a bit, if the shows proposed (brendan's show on the
>>>>>>>>>> 13th and bryans show on the 17th) get approved we'll have about 5 shows in
>>>>>>>>>> sept. not bad.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:00 PM, tara myketiak <
>>>>>>>>>> taramyketiak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm into more members if it means more people to take on work,
>>>>>>>>>>> and I can help out w/ the show on Sept 17th but that and the anniversary
>>>>>>>>>>> weekend is probably all I can commit to time-wise.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Anju Singh <
>>>>>>>>>>> aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Never mind he can't move the 333 show he feels bad about doing
>>>>>>>>>>>> that.. So never mind!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bryan also told me he has two shows for September, one is for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 333 I asked him to do it at black lab and he says he prefers it anyway so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sept 9th for raw nerves from Portland and sept 17th for not a cost from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victoria are his shows. Full lineups coming!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Lindsay Kasting <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> l.kasting86 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have that Silent Era show on Sept 5 (which is creeping up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real fast) and if anyone could help me find some opening bands I'd really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciate it. Everyone I ask keeps saying no. Ther're a good band and I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love to see them get a good show! And apparently we need gigs for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> September. So maybe if anyone can help or feels like they might want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take it on? I'm kind of realizing that booking bills may not be my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strongest skill set.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Anju Singh <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm feeling like we may need some more shows for September.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have the party (which I believe will only be the Saturday
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now), but that might not make more than a usual show, and we have a couple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other shows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need some more gigs for September.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also, we need some more folks involved I think to make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this stuff happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How would everyone feel about recruiting more collective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> members? Legs is away, I'm really taking a back seat, Lindsay handles a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of maintenance stuff, so we are pretty limited in active show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bookers/bottomliners.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anju Singh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anju Singh
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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