[Blacklabcollective] September shows, Collective Members?

Anju Singh aanjusingh at gmail.com
Sat Aug 22 15:42:24 PDT 2015


Here are the minutes where we approved to ask, and I was assigned to ask
Mike/Mick..

When he didnt make that meeting, folks told me to invite him to the next
meeting..

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Megan! Mike was asked a while ago but he just didn't make that last
> meeting, we discussed adding him, Jakob, and Tara to the collective! It was
> my job to ask Mike and if you remember, we were all a little disappointed
> that he didn't attend that meeting!
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> just to clarify - i would prefer if we could talk about the possibility
>> of adding new members or bottomliners and figure out a solution before we
>> invite anyone else to join the collective right away. i dont know if anyone
>> invited mike or anything but i'm very partial to adding bottomliners over
>> collective members and i'd prefer to discuss it with the existing
>> collective without new folks there if possible! just to be straightforward
>> about my thoughts on this, in case i wasnt before.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have pretty strong opinions on this but I think we can figure
>>> something out that works for everyone at the meeting :)
>>> On Aug 19, 2015 11:50 PM, "Lindsay Kasting" <l.kasting86 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah and someone who knows the space/our policies & history is around
>>>> if anything happens that requires quick thinking or leaning on past
>>>> experience. But yeah lining up volunteers and prep/tear down would fall on
>>>> the bottom liner. Idk, let's chat at the meeting.
>>>> On Aug 19, 2015 11:16 PM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh ya you're right!
>>>>>
>>>>> Though (just to make sure we are thinking through details, not to be
>>>>> contrarian!), what exactly would the "security" role entail? Can it mean
>>>>> just showing up when the show begins and leaving when it ends? If it means
>>>>> more than that, then are we just doubling the bottomliner role, and
>>>>> therefore not reducing work?
>>>>>
>>>>> If it's just to show up at 8 when  the show starts and end at 11pm
>>>>> when it ends, then you're right, that kind of does work because it is less
>>>>> work. The bottomliner would then take care of all setup/cleanup - correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Lindsay Kasting <
>>>>> l.kasting86 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought that even with outside bottom liners we were still going to
>>>>>> try to have a collective member on security or in some other capacity to
>>>>>> kind of keep an eye? But leave them to handle the show and volunteers and
>>>>>> shit?
>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2015 10:18 PM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One major obstacle I saw in the Bottomliner Group, is that we would
>>>>>>> definitely want anyone bottomlining shows at meetings. That's where we
>>>>>>> decide on better process/make changes, talk about previous incidents, and
>>>>>>> strategize for gigs. I would feel weird about handing over
>>>>>>> keys/responsibility and not have communication with folks. And I think we
>>>>>>> would want communication with them on the email list, for example, in case
>>>>>>> someone gets sick and can't bottomline show or in case something serious
>>>>>>> happens, and even to get the numbers at the end of the night submitted for
>>>>>>> the collective to see how the night went.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While I understand that adding more collective members opens up
>>>>>>> potential for more complications, I'm not sure how we would have a
>>>>>>> bottomliner group that is not part of the collective. I'm open to ideas
>>>>>>> though :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One potential solution I thought of is that Meetings would be TWO
>>>>>>> HOURS every time, the first hour would be entirely a financial check-in,
>>>>>>> shows check-in and proposals. The second hour would be the remaining
>>>>>>> business.  The first hour is for all members, the second hour is for the
>>>>>>> Collective only (*this is not too different than Red Gate's model, in a
>>>>>>> way, and it works there and they like it).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The question I have about that model is that considering what our
>>>>>>> usual later topics are (mostly maintenance work :/), maybe it would
>>>>>>> actually be beneficial to keep people on, because we need more help I
>>>>>>> think..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just throwing out there a main complication that might make the
>>>>>>> bottomliner group not really a helpful category of members for us.. but I'm
>>>>>>> totally open to thoughts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Brendan Plummer <
>>>>>>> brendan.plummer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah there's also another september show proposed but I don't
>>>>>>>> really want it so much. But if we needed shows we could do the TV UGLY tape
>>>>>>>> release show on September 10. Let me know if anyone wants that, but I am
>>>>>>>> focusing on the 13th if people are down.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Talk soon,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> B.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, it significantly improved for sure :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Megan Speers <
>>>>>>>> speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> im more into revisiting the idea of outside bottomliners to be
>>>>>>>>> honest. i think we have a solid crew and we should keep it kind of tight.
>>>>>>>>> BUT it would be cool to have other people putting on shows who we trust and
>>>>>>>>> i do trust bryans judgment on that front. and actually september is
>>>>>>>>> starting to shape up a bit, if the shows proposed (brendan's show on the
>>>>>>>>> 13th and bryans show on the 17th) get approved we'll have about 5 shows in
>>>>>>>>> sept. not bad.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:00 PM, tara myketiak <
>>>>>>>>> taramyketiak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm into more members if it means more people to take on work,
>>>>>>>>>> and I can help out w/ the show on Sept 17th but that and the anniversary
>>>>>>>>>> weekend is probably all I can commit to time-wise.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Never mind he can't move the 333 show he feels bad about doing
>>>>>>>>>>> that.. So never mind!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bryan also told me he has two shows for September, one is for
>>>>>>>>>>>> 333 I asked him to do it at black lab and he says he prefers it anyway so
>>>>>>>>>>>> sept 9th for raw nerves from Portland and sept 17th for not a cost from
>>>>>>>>>>>> Victoria are his shows. Full lineups coming!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Lindsay Kasting <
>>>>>>>>>>>> l.kasting86 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have that Silent Era show on Sept 5 (which is creeping up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> real fast) and if anyone could help me find some opening bands I'd really
>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciate it. Everyone I ask keeps saying no. Ther're a good band and I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>> love to see them get a good show! And apparently we need gigs for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> September. So maybe if anyone can help or feels like they might want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> take it on? I'm kind of realizing that booking bills may not be my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> strongest skill set.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Anju Singh <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm feeling like we may need some more shows for September.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have the party (which I believe will only be the Saturday
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now), but that might not make more than a usual show, and we have a couple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other shows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need some more gigs for September.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also, we need some more folks involved I think to make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this stuff happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How would everyone feel about recruiting more collective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> members? Legs is away, I'm really taking a back seat, Lindsay handles a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of maintenance stuff, so we are pretty limited in active show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bookers/bottomliners.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anju Singh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Anju Singh
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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