[Blacklabcollective] September shows, Collective Members?

Thu Aug 20 00:04:18 PDT 2015

I have pretty strong opinions on this but I think we can figure something
out that works for everyone at the meeting :)
On Aug 19, 2015 11:50 PM, "Lindsay Kasting" <l.kasting86 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah and someone who knows the space/our policies & history is around if
> anything happens that requires quick thinking or leaning on past
> experience. But yeah lining up volunteers and prep/tear down would fall on
> the bottom liner. Idk, let's chat at the meeting.
> On Aug 19, 2015 11:16 PM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh ya you're right!
>>
>> Though (just to make sure we are thinking through details, not to be
>> contrarian!), what exactly would the "security" role entail? Can it mean
>> just showing up when the show begins and leaving when it ends? If it means
>> more than that, then are we just doubling the bottomliner role, and
>> therefore not reducing work?
>>
>> If it's just to show up at 8 when  the show starts and end at 11pm when
>> it ends, then you're right, that kind of does work because it is less work.
>> The bottomliner would then take care of all setup/cleanup - correct?
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Lindsay Kasting <l.kasting86 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought that even with outside bottom liners we were still going to
>>> try to have a collective member on security or in some other capacity to
>>> kind of keep an eye? But leave them to handle the show and volunteers and
>>> shit?
>>> On Aug 19, 2015 10:18 PM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One major obstacle I saw in the Bottomliner Group, is that we would
>>>> definitely want anyone bottomlining shows at meetings. That's where we
>>>> decide on better process/make changes, talk about previous incidents, and
>>>> strategize for gigs. I would feel weird about handing over
>>>> keys/responsibility and not have communication with folks. And I think we
>>>> would want communication with them on the email list, for example, in case
>>>> someone gets sick and can't bottomline show or in case something serious
>>>> happens, and even to get the numbers at the end of the night submitted for
>>>> the collective to see how the night went.
>>>>
>>>> While I understand that adding more collective members opens up
>>>> potential for more complications, I'm not sure how we would have a
>>>> bottomliner group that is not part of the collective. I'm open to ideas
>>>> though :)
>>>>
>>>> One potential solution I thought of is that Meetings would be TWO HOURS
>>>> every time, the first hour would be entirely a financial check-in, shows
>>>> check-in and proposals. The second hour would be the remaining business.
>>>> The first hour is for all members, the second hour is for the Collective
>>>> only (*this is not too different than Red Gate's model, in a way, and it
>>>> works there and they like it).
>>>>
>>>> The question I have about that model is that considering what our usual
>>>> later topics are (mostly maintenance work :/), maybe it would actually be
>>>> beneficial to keep people on, because we need more help I think..
>>>>
>>>> Just throwing out there a main complication that might make the
>>>> bottomliner group not really a helpful category of members for us.. but I'm
>>>> totally open to thoughts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Brendan Plummer <
>>>> brendan.plummer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah there's also another september show proposed but I don't really
>>>>> want it so much. But if we needed shows we could do the TV UGLY tape
>>>>> release show on September 10. Let me know if anyone wants that, but I am
>>>>> focusing on the 13th if people are down.
>>>>>
>>>>> Talk soon,
>>>>>
>>>>> B.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it significantly improved for sure :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> im more into revisiting the idea of outside bottomliners to be
>>>>>> honest. i think we have a solid crew and we should keep it kind of tight.
>>>>>> BUT it would be cool to have other people putting on shows who we trust and
>>>>>> i do trust bryans judgment on that front. and actually september is
>>>>>> starting to shape up a bit, if the shows proposed (brendan's show on the
>>>>>> 13th and bryans show on the 17th) get approved we'll have about 5 shows in
>>>>>> sept. not bad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:00 PM, tara myketiak <
>>>>>> taramyketiak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm into more members if it means more people to take on work, and I
>>>>>>> can help out w/ the show on Sept 17th but that and the anniversary weekend
>>>>>>> is probably all I can commit to time-wise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Never mind he can't move the 333 show he feels bad about doing
>>>>>>>> that.. So never mind!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bryan also told me he has two shows for September, one is for 333
>>>>>>>>> I asked him to do it at black lab and he says he prefers it anyway so sept
>>>>>>>>> 9th for raw nerves from Portland and sept 17th for not a cost from Victoria
>>>>>>>>> are his shows. Full lineups coming!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Lindsay Kasting <
>>>>>>>>> l.kasting86 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have that Silent Era show on Sept 5 (which is creeping up real
>>>>>>>>>> fast) and if anyone could help me find some opening bands I'd really
>>>>>>>>>> appreciate it. Everyone I ask keeps saying no. Ther're a good band and I'd
>>>>>>>>>> love to see them get a good show! And apparently we need gigs for
>>>>>>>>>> September. So maybe if anyone can help or feels like they might want to
>>>>>>>>>> take it on? I'm kind of realizing that booking bills may not be my
>>>>>>>>>> strongest skill set.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm feeling like we may need some more shows for September.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We have the party (which I believe will only be the Saturday
>>>>>>>>>>> now), but that might not make more than a usual show, and we have a couple
>>>>>>>>>>> other shows.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We need some more gigs for September.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But also, we need some more folks involved I think to make this
>>>>>>>>>>> stuff happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How would everyone feel about recruiting more collective
>>>>>>>>>>> members? Legs is away, I'm really taking a back seat, Lindsay handles a lot
>>>>>>>>>>> of maintenance stuff, so we are pretty limited in active show
>>>>>>>>>>> bookers/bottomliners.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Anju Singh
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Anju Singh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
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