[Blacklabcollective] September shows, Collective Members?

Lindsay Kasting l.kasting86 at gmail.com
Wed Aug 19 23:50:35 PDT 2015


Yeah and someone who knows the space/our policies & history is around if
anything happens that requires quick thinking or leaning on past
experience. But yeah lining up volunteers and prep/tear down would fall on
the bottom liner. Idk, let's chat at the meeting.
On Aug 19, 2015 11:16 PM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh ya you're right!
>
> Though (just to make sure we are thinking through details, not to be
> contrarian!), what exactly would the "security" role entail? Can it mean
> just showing up when the show begins and leaving when it ends? If it means
> more than that, then are we just doubling the bottomliner role, and
> therefore not reducing work?
>
> If it's just to show up at 8 when  the show starts and end at 11pm when it
> ends, then you're right, that kind of does work because it is less work.
> The bottomliner would then take care of all setup/cleanup - correct?
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Lindsay Kasting <l.kasting86 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I thought that even with outside bottom liners we were still going to try
>> to have a collective member on security or in some other capacity to kind
>> of keep an eye? But leave them to handle the show and volunteers and shit?
>> On Aug 19, 2015 10:18 PM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> One major obstacle I saw in the Bottomliner Group, is that we would
>>> definitely want anyone bottomlining shows at meetings. That's where we
>>> decide on better process/make changes, talk about previous incidents, and
>>> strategize for gigs. I would feel weird about handing over
>>> keys/responsibility and not have communication with folks. And I think we
>>> would want communication with them on the email list, for example, in case
>>> someone gets sick and can't bottomline show or in case something serious
>>> happens, and even to get the numbers at the end of the night submitted for
>>> the collective to see how the night went.
>>>
>>> While I understand that adding more collective members opens up
>>> potential for more complications, I'm not sure how we would have a
>>> bottomliner group that is not part of the collective. I'm open to ideas
>>> though :)
>>>
>>> One potential solution I thought of is that Meetings would be TWO HOURS
>>> every time, the first hour would be entirely a financial check-in, shows
>>> check-in and proposals. The second hour would be the remaining business.
>>> The first hour is for all members, the second hour is for the Collective
>>> only (*this is not too different than Red Gate's model, in a way, and it
>>> works there and they like it).
>>>
>>> The question I have about that model is that considering what our usual
>>> later topics are (mostly maintenance work :/), maybe it would actually be
>>> beneficial to keep people on, because we need more help I think..
>>>
>>> Just throwing out there a main complication that might make the
>>> bottomliner group not really a helpful category of members for us.. but I'm
>>> totally open to thoughts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Brendan Plummer <
>>> brendan.plummer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah there's also another september show proposed but I don't really
>>>> want it so much. But if we needed shows we could do the TV UGLY tape
>>>> release show on September 10. Let me know if anyone wants that, but I am
>>>> focusing on the 13th if people are down.
>>>>
>>>> Talk soon,
>>>>
>>>> B.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it significantly improved for sure :)
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> im more into revisiting the idea of outside bottomliners to be honest.
>>>>> i think we have a solid crew and we should keep it kind of tight. BUT it
>>>>> would be cool to have other people putting on shows who we trust and i do
>>>>> trust bryans judgment on that front. and actually september is starting to
>>>>> shape up a bit, if the shows proposed (brendan's show on the 13th and
>>>>> bryans show on the 17th) get approved we'll have about 5 shows in sept. not
>>>>> bad.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:00 PM, tara myketiak <taramyketiak at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm into more members if it means more people to take on work, and I
>>>>>> can help out w/ the show on Sept 17th but that and the anniversary weekend
>>>>>> is probably all I can commit to time-wise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never mind he can't move the 333 show he feels bad about doing
>>>>>>> that.. So never mind!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bryan also told me he has two shows for September, one is for 333 I
>>>>>>>> asked him to do it at black lab and he says he prefers it anyway so sept
>>>>>>>> 9th for raw nerves from Portland and sept 17th for not a cost from Victoria
>>>>>>>> are his shows. Full lineups coming!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Lindsay Kasting <l.kasting86 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have that Silent Era show on Sept 5 (which is creeping up real
>>>>>>>>> fast) and if anyone could help me find some opening bands I'd really
>>>>>>>>> appreciate it. Everyone I ask keeps saying no. Ther're a good band and I'd
>>>>>>>>> love to see them get a good show! And apparently we need gigs for
>>>>>>>>> September. So maybe if anyone can help or feels like they might want to
>>>>>>>>> take it on? I'm kind of realizing that booking bills may not be my
>>>>>>>>> strongest skill set.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm feeling like we may need some more shows for September.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We have the party (which I believe will only be the Saturday
>>>>>>>>>> now), but that might not make more than a usual show, and we have a couple
>>>>>>>>>> other shows.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We need some more gigs for September.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But also, we need some more folks involved I think to make this
>>>>>>>>>> stuff happen.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How would everyone feel about recruiting more collective members?
>>>>>>>>>> Legs is away, I'm really taking a back seat, Lindsay handles a lot of
>>>>>>>>>> maintenance stuff, so we are pretty limited in active show
>>>>>>>>>> bookers/bottomliners.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Anju Singh
>>>>>>>>>>
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