[Blacklabcollective] Jerry

Sun Aug 16 01:49:35 PDT 2015

I say give em to Chris! Hello to everyone from Dublin!

On Sunday, August 16, 2015, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:

> I wonder if rats like beer? i know cockroaches do. im a bit concerned
> about storing empties in the space and there's nowhere we could bring them
> immediately after shows.
>
> I don't know how many shows a month SBC does or how often they have other
> drinking events etc but I kind of doubt that we'd make $1000 in a month on
> it. I think it averages from 2-5 bags per show which is probably like
> $40-$100 ? Max? Basically I think we'd need to come up with some kind of
> rat proof vessel for empties if we wana cash em in and expect our cockroach
> population to increase solidly. also i have zero interest in doing the work
> of returning the empties so fyi I ain't helpin haha. if yall wana cash em
> tho thats fine with me!
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aanjusingh at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> I think that decreasing work for us when we do shows is key or else we
>> will burn out (or maybe I'm wrong?)
>>
>>  If we would make $1000 a month from empties, wouldn't it make sense to
>> have someone paid in a maintenance position to take them back for us?
>>
>> I have no idea. I do know that Co-op Radio is fcking broke and we pay
>> someone to do a weekly cleaning and it's important and helpful. Also I
>> would definitely not be into cleaning MORE or dealing with empties for
>> sure, I think we also can't expect volunteers to do a "really good mop and
>> cleanup" at the end of the night, they do a good job but having it be
>> someone's job is reliable.
>>
>> Just my thoughts, but I also like paying people because in my experience
>> things run smoother - this is from experience from secret location from
>> 2005-now and also from
>> Working in a non-profit and doing DIY venue stuff when I was in high
>> school too.
>>
>> Also if we get rid of the rat infestation but don't do a regular cleanup
>> plan after it will just happen again.
>>
>> Secret location has rats and no infestation but we pay maintenance people
>> $75 a month each (we have 2, but they handle landlord, repairs etc too). I
>> personally think the only reason we haven't had an infestation is because
>> it's Jesse and Laura's job to keep
>> It clean.
>>
>> Just my thoughts, maybe we can take back empties after the next show and
>> see how it goes?
>>
>> Anju
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 12, 2015, Lindsay Kasting <l.kasting86 at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','l.kasting86 at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Like I've said to a few of you, I think it's nice to be able to offer
>>> work to neighbourhood people, but I'm more interested in building
>>> relationships than creating a scramble of who can get here first. Having
>>> said that, none of the empty fellas really help clean that much, and they
>>> make a LOT of money off of us. I realize I'm probably the one this would
>>> create leg work though, but I talked to Andrew last night (he came and
>>> picked up those lights, we probably owe him about $400 for the broken
>>> bulbs, which is another thing we won't talk about until he tells me more
>>> about how much he's out), and he said the Buddha makes close to $1000/month
>>> from empties. Food for thought, anyways.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Leggo Sirens <sirensongs604 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that due to the sensitive material in the lab (money, gear,
>>>> tools, etc) it would have to be someone we knew personally. I think if peep
>>>> are vigilant with mopping after shows, and after we get the pests dealt
>>>> with, the cleaning situation will look a lot different. Keep it tabled
>>>> until after the de-rat? Also during the de-clutter, did anyone find my
>>>> water canteen with an MRR sticker on it? I also have some tools and stuff
>>>> in there but I'm assuming nothing important got chucked.
>>>>
>>>> xolegs
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:13 AM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've got a solution that might work?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lindsay and I talked about hiring someone to do a once a month deep
>>>>> clean for $60, I was going to pitch this at the next meeting. Shiner did a
>>>>> great job and isn't squeamish, and offered to do a weekly cleaning if we
>>>>> hired someone. Just a thought, but regardless of what we decide...
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest that we tell Jerry that we have hired a janitor and that the
>>>>> new hire handles all cleaning and deals with the people taking empties, and
>>>>> that Chris was chosen for the job of empties.
>>>>>
>>>>> We say, "Thank you very much for offering to help and for the help in
>>>>> the past, but we realized we had to hire someone. It's someone's job now,
>>>>> so unfortunately, there is no more cleaning work or need for help with
>>>>> empties. It wouldn't be fair to them to give away their job and we can't
>>>>> afford to pay anyone else as we are struggling already."
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Brendan Plummer <
>>>>> brendan.plummer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, no worries! I just thought that was how we usually arranged it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Lindsay Kasting <
>>>>>> l.kasting86 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I disagree about a "first come first serve policy," but let's just
>>>>>>> talk at the meeting.
>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015 8:09 PM, "Brendan Plummer" <
>>>>>>> brendan.plummer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didn't have an interaction with this person, but I like Chris and
>>>>>>>> he is solid. I think it's nice having a 'first come first serve' policy,
>>>>>>>> and Chris is pretty much always the the first to show up. And based on hiw
>>>>>>>> interactions (coming in the back, acting entitled, disrespecting Lindsay) I
>>>>>>>> would be in favour of having a chat with this person and letting him know
>>>>>>>> that that shit doesn't fly if he shows up at the next show. (I would be
>>>>>>>> happy to do so if need be.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Lindsay Kasting <
>>>>>>>> l.kasting86 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He came back and pestered me when I was here by myself today
>>>>>>>>> drywalling and painting too. I dont like him. Too pushy. Also all the
>>>>>>>>> "where's you boss?" And "the guy in charge" shit kinda left me with a bad
>>>>>>>>> taste in my mouth.
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015 5:54 PM, "Rafael "Cabeza" Manrique" <
>>>>>>>>> cabezadevacarecs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dude asked for 2 beers and 10$. Got half of it and did cleaned.
>>>>>>>>>> He need to chill a bit about the cans. He was pretty stress all
>>>>>>>>>> through the show about it. At one point, when we were counting the money he
>>>>>>>>>> came in and I asked him to please leave while we counted the money. Would
>>>>>>>>>> be cool to talk to him about it. I was kind of chill because I didn't
>>>>>>>>>> really knew him or the situation. But next show we have to let him know
>>>>>>>>>> what the deal is (share the cans, etc.).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Show was smooth, but it seems like so much happened. Sorry for
>>>>>>>>>> not posting all the info of what happened.
>>>>>>>>>> Rafael.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2015-08-11 1:33 GMT-07:00 Lindsay Kasting <l.kasting86 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris is our guy. Usually if anyone else shows I tell them to
>>>>>>>>>>> come back at 11 and hope that our regular guy doesn't show. New guy was
>>>>>>>>>>> pushy as hell and not that cool. Let's check in about it at the meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015 12:22 AM, "Jakob Knudsen" <jakob.is at live.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also thanks!! I'm glad you enjoyed
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 12:22 AM, Jakob Knudsen <jakob.is at live.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah jerry has longer hair and was wearing a blue Hawaiian
>>>>>>>>>>>> shirt. There was another guy earlier that seemed really nice but I think
>>>>>>>>>>>> Liz and Cera thought jerry was our guy an turned him away
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 12:17 AM, Megan Speers <
>>>>>>>>>>>> speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yea I'm assuming same guy who came tonight? We can talk at
>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting but actually Chris has been way more chill, consistent, and not
>>>>>>>>>>>> generally entitled nor has he everrr asked to get paid besides the actual
>>>>>>>>>>>> cans so maybe we can do a thing where he gets dibs besides that they're on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the curb after 11 period or something? Anyways that's my suggestion! Great
>>>>>>>>>>>> show tonight tho!! Super fuckin fun!
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015 12:01 AM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So a guy named Jerry has been coming by and told me before
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that he made arrangements for pizza and a beer and empties for cleanup
>>>>>>>>>>>>> help. I gave him a beer and a couple bucks last time he helped, this time i
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was clear that I cannot give him money each time and that last night was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the last time, and also that he has to split the empties with anyone else
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who shows up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When someone did show up and i told him he had to share he got
>>>>>>>>>>>>> angry. Tonight, Jakob told me that he asked for $10.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest we stop giving him money and just say that empties
>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to be split up/shared.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anju Singh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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