[Blacklabcollective] Jerry

Sat Aug 15 21:44:12 PDT 2015

I wonder if rats like beer? i know cockroaches do. im a bit concerned about
storing empties in the space and there's nowhere we could bring them
immediately after shows.

I don't know how many shows a month SBC does or how often they have other
drinking events etc but I kind of doubt that we'd make $1000 in a month on
it. I think it averages from 2-5 bags per show which is probably like
$40-$100 ? Max? Basically I think we'd need to come up with some kind of
rat proof vessel for empties if we wana cash em in and expect our cockroach
population to increase solidly. also i have zero interest in doing the work
of returning the empties so fyi I ain't helpin haha. if yall wana cash em
tho thats fine with me!

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think that decreasing work for us when we do shows is key or else we
> will burn out (or maybe I'm wrong?)
>
>  If we would make $1000 a month from empties, wouldn't it make sense to
> have someone paid in a maintenance position to take them back for us?
>
> I have no idea. I do know that Co-op Radio is fcking broke and we pay
> someone to do a weekly cleaning and it's important and helpful. Also I
> would definitely not be into cleaning MORE or dealing with empties for
> sure, I think we also can't expect volunteers to do a "really good mop and
> cleanup" at the end of the night, they do a good job but having it be
> someone's job is reliable.
>
> Just my thoughts, but I also like paying people because in my experience
> things run smoother - this is from experience from secret location from
> 2005-now and also from
> Working in a non-profit and doing DIY venue stuff when I was in high
> school too.
>
> Also if we get rid of the rat infestation but don't do a regular cleanup
> plan after it will just happen again.
>
> Secret location has rats and no infestation but we pay maintenance people
> $75 a month each (we have 2, but they handle landlord, repairs etc too). I
> personally think the only reason we haven't had an infestation is because
> it's Jesse and Laura's job to keep
> It clean.
>
> Just my thoughts, maybe we can take back empties after the next show and
> see how it goes?
>
> Anju
>
> On Wednesday, August 12, 2015, Lindsay Kasting <l.kasting86 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Like I've said to a few of you, I think it's nice to be able to offer
>> work to neighbourhood people, but I'm more interested in building
>> relationships than creating a scramble of who can get here first. Having
>> said that, none of the empty fellas really help clean that much, and they
>> make a LOT of money off of us. I realize I'm probably the one this would
>> create leg work though, but I talked to Andrew last night (he came and
>> picked up those lights, we probably owe him about $400 for the broken
>> bulbs, which is another thing we won't talk about until he tells me more
>> about how much he's out), and he said the Buddha makes close to $1000/month
>> from empties. Food for thought, anyways.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Leggo Sirens <sirensongs604 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think that due to the sensitive material in the lab (money, gear,
>>> tools, etc) it would have to be someone we knew personally. I think if peep
>>> are vigilant with mopping after shows, and after we get the pests dealt
>>> with, the cleaning situation will look a lot different. Keep it tabled
>>> until after the de-rat? Also during the de-clutter, did anyone find my
>>> water canteen with an MRR sticker on it? I also have some tools and stuff
>>> in there but I'm assuming nothing important got chucked.
>>>
>>> xolegs
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:13 AM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've got a solution that might work?
>>>>
>>>> Lindsay and I talked about hiring someone to do a once a month deep
>>>> clean for $60, I was going to pitch this at the next meeting. Shiner did a
>>>> great job and isn't squeamish, and offered to do a weekly cleaning if we
>>>> hired someone. Just a thought, but regardless of what we decide...
>>>>
>>>> I suggest that we tell Jerry that we have hired a janitor and that the
>>>> new hire handles all cleaning and deals with the people taking empties, and
>>>> that Chris was chosen for the job of empties.
>>>>
>>>> We say, "Thank you very much for offering to help and for the help in
>>>> the past, but we realized we had to hire someone. It's someone's job now,
>>>> so unfortunately, there is no more cleaning work or need for help with
>>>> empties. It wouldn't be fair to them to give away their job and we can't
>>>> afford to pay anyone else as we are struggling already."
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Brendan Plummer <
>>>> brendan.plummer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK, no worries! I just thought that was how we usually arranged it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Lindsay Kasting <
>>>>> l.kasting86 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I disagree about a "first come first serve policy," but let's just
>>>>>> talk at the meeting.
>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015 8:09 PM, "Brendan Plummer" <brendan.plummer at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't have an interaction with this person, but I like Chris and
>>>>>>> he is solid. I think it's nice having a 'first come first serve' policy,
>>>>>>> and Chris is pretty much always the the first to show up. And based on hiw
>>>>>>> interactions (coming in the back, acting entitled, disrespecting Lindsay) I
>>>>>>> would be in favour of having a chat with this person and letting him know
>>>>>>> that that shit doesn't fly if he shows up at the next show. (I would be
>>>>>>> happy to do so if need be.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Lindsay Kasting <
>>>>>>> l.kasting86 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He came back and pestered me when I was here by myself today
>>>>>>>> drywalling and painting too. I dont like him. Too pushy. Also all the
>>>>>>>> "where's you boss?" And "the guy in charge" shit kinda left me with a bad
>>>>>>>> taste in my mouth.
>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015 5:54 PM, "Rafael "Cabeza" Manrique" <
>>>>>>>> cabezadevacarecs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dude asked for 2 beers and 10$. Got half of it and did cleaned.
>>>>>>>>> He need to chill a bit about the cans. He was pretty stress all
>>>>>>>>> through the show about it. At one point, when we were counting the money he
>>>>>>>>> came in and I asked him to please leave while we counted the money. Would
>>>>>>>>> be cool to talk to him about it. I was kind of chill because I didn't
>>>>>>>>> really knew him or the situation. But next show we have to let him know
>>>>>>>>> what the deal is (share the cans, etc.).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Show was smooth, but it seems like so much happened. Sorry for not
>>>>>>>>> posting all the info of what happened.
>>>>>>>>> Rafael.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2015-08-11 1:33 GMT-07:00 Lindsay Kasting <l.kasting86 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chris is our guy. Usually if anyone else shows I tell them to
>>>>>>>>>> come back at 11 and hope that our regular guy doesn't show. New guy was
>>>>>>>>>> pushy as hell and not that cool. Let's check in about it at the meeting.
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015 12:22 AM, "Jakob Knudsen" <jakob.is at live.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also thanks!! I'm glad you enjoyed
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 12:22 AM, Jakob Knudsen <jakob.is at live.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah jerry has longer hair and was wearing a blue Hawaiian
>>>>>>>>>>> shirt. There was another guy earlier that seemed really nice but I think
>>>>>>>>>>> Liz and Cera thought jerry was our guy an turned him away
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 12:17 AM, Megan Speers <
>>>>>>>>>>> speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yea I'm assuming same guy who came tonight? We can talk at
>>>>>>>>>>> meeting but actually Chris has been way more chill, consistent, and not
>>>>>>>>>>> generally entitled nor has he everrr asked to get paid besides the actual
>>>>>>>>>>> cans so maybe we can do a thing where he gets dibs besides that they're on
>>>>>>>>>>> the curb after 11 period or something? Anyways that's my suggestion! Great
>>>>>>>>>>> show tonight tho!! Super fuckin fun!
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015 12:01 AM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So a guy named Jerry has been coming by and told me before that
>>>>>>>>>>>> he made arrangements for pizza and a beer and empties for cleanup help. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> gave him a beer and a couple bucks last time he helped, this time i was
>>>>>>>>>>>> clear that I cannot give him money each time and that last night was the
>>>>>>>>>>>> last time, and also that he has to split the empties with anyone else who
>>>>>>>>>>>> shows up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When someone did show up and i told him he had to share he got
>>>>>>>>>>>> angry. Tonight, Jakob told me that he asked for $10.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest we stop giving him money and just say that empties
>>>>>>>>>>>> need to be split up/shared.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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