[Blacklabcollective] cash money

Tue Aug 11 20:17:13 PDT 2015

Well,

I just got all of these emails. I think everyone handled this well. If this
is the person I am thinking, I ought to have said something because I think
they were being sketchy during the Pleasure Leftists show as well (to the
extent that they seemed to have no sense of boundaries with the singer, but
I didn't see them grope or anything like that). So as someone who was
working security I should have been a bit more on this, my apologies.

Anyways, thanks everyone for stepping up and being about this. I respect
it, thanks for doing the leg work/typing/confronting.

Talk soon,

B.

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Lindsay Kasting <l.kasting86 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Totally. Good work. Hope the singer wasn't too bummed.
> On Aug 11, 2015 4:00 PM, "Anju Singh" <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Great! Thanks for handling it
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 11, 2015, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ahh, i already sent it off. but she also already responded with:
>>> Whoa! Sorry, I was blacked out pretty hard. Not that that's a good
>>> excuse or anything. It won't happen again.
>>>
>>> so that basically went as well as it could have.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> May I strongly suggest that you start with:
>>>>
>>>> Hello, the following letter is from the black lab collective group.
>>>> Myself and Jakob are sending it on behalf of the collective and can be your
>>>> contact people if you have questions.
>>>>
>>>> This makes it clear that you are expressing views from a group not
>>>> personally and therefore hopefully you two wouldn't be targeted if it gets
>>>> weird.
>>>>
>>>> No worries if you don't want To do that though!!
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, August 11, 2015, Jakob Knudsen <jakob.is at live.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm fine with it
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ugh ok i looked it up on facebook help or whatever and i guess you can
>>>>> only message people from a Page if they've messaged you first. annoying!
>>>>> soooo if everyone is cool with it we can just send it from our personal
>>>>> accounts as a group message from me and jakob?
>>>>> stoopid facebook.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Jakob Knudsen <jakob.is at live.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This seems reasonable to me
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> here is the message i drafted... the beginning preamble may not be
>>>>>> necessary if we can figure out how to send a msg as black lab. lemme know
>>>>>> if there's anything anyone would like me to change! i know it's long but i
>>>>>> like to be thorough.... if anyone has ideas on how to be more succinct im
>>>>>> all ears hahah.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey! My name's Megan, and I help organize with the Black Lab. Jakob
>>>>>> is included in this message and is also a collective member who organizes
>>>>>> shows at Black Lab.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're writing you this message because there were concerns over some
>>>>>> of your actions at the Institute and Pleasure Leftists show last night. We
>>>>>> saw that you went onto the stage numerous times during Institute's set and
>>>>>> were groping the singer of the band. There were also complaints from other
>>>>>> people at the show that you were making some people feel uncomfortable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We would just like to clarify with you that touching people without
>>>>>> their explicit, ongoing consent is unacceptable within our venue space.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That means that while you're in the Black Lab, please do not touch
>>>>>> people (whether they are performing or there to enjoy the show too) unless
>>>>>> everyone involved has verbally agreed to it and is stoked. We want everyone
>>>>>> to feel as safe as possible at our shows, and sexual assault (i.e. groping)
>>>>>> makes people feel unsafe. Please also respect that some people won't like
>>>>>> it if you are being very forward with them and may not feel comfortable
>>>>>> saying so. We ask you to try to be mindful of people's boundaries,
>>>>>> including unspoken body language cues that may be more subtle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Basically, if someone isn't enthusiastically telling you outright
>>>>>> that they are stoked on you touching them or flirting with them or
>>>>>> whatever, STOP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We welcome you to come to future shows at our space, but know that if
>>>>>> we see you doing similar things in the future, we will ask you to leave. We
>>>>>> are happy to talk to you via this message or in person at future shows if
>>>>>> you'd like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We also do have a formal safer spaces policy, which you can find here:
>>>>>> http://theblacklabvancouver.tumblr.com/saferspaces
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for reading!
>>>>>> -megan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fyi - its the not the same person from the red gate incident. good
>>>>>>> idea regarding sending it from the black lab facebook
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Rafael "Cabeza" Manrique <
>>>>>>> cabezadevacarecs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didnt see any of these, but Anthony and Jakob did told me about
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>> Rafael
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2015-08-11 13:41 GMT-07:00 Jakob Knudsen <jakob.is at live.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gotcha
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Part of the reason I'm asking is that Red Gate asked me to speak
>>>>>>>>> to someone about gropey behaviour/unwelcome sexual advances at shows and I
>>>>>>>>> know they were at the show last night.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When/if you find out their name, can you please let us know? For
>>>>>>>>>> future reference it's good to keep tabs on people.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jakob/Tara - all emails and info are confidential to this list
>>>>>>>>>> FYI, until we have a plan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Megan Speers <
>>>>>>>>>> speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ok cool. yep that's fine, we can message them together for sure!
>>>>>>>>>>> and im glad that he wasn't feeling too awful. that really
>>>>>>>>>>> sucked. glad he's somewhat ok.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Jakob Knudsen <
>>>>>>>>>>> jakob.is at live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have their Facebook contact if you'd like to message them
>>>>>>>>>>>> together? Or one or the other of us can message them. I spoke to Mose and
>>>>>>>>>>>> he was ok, he was definitely uncomfortable but Said if he felt unsafe he
>>>>>>>>>>>> would have stopped and asked fr some help
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Megan Speers <
>>>>>>>>>>>> speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> haha jakob we totally sent those emails at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>>>> if we can figure out a contact for this person i'd be glad to
>>>>>>>>>>>> have that conversation with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Jakob Knudsen <
>>>>>>>>>>>> jakob.is at live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's one thing I'd like to address, someone at the show was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty drunk and during institutes set kept groping and hitting their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> singer, which put a lot of people on edge. I spoke to him after the set and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> he was uncomfortable but said it was ok and he didn't feel unsafe at any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. I asked around to see if anyone was farmiliar with them and turns
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out they're new to the city. While I was asking around to see if anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew them I got a few messages saying they approached others at the show
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inappropriately, it could be worthwhile to reach out to them and explain
>>>>>>>>>>>>> black lab policy in terms of that. Cera talked to them for a bit after the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> show but said she couldn't tell if anything registered. Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Brendan Plummer <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> brendan.plummer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was a very fun show! Good job everyone!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome work everyone!!! thanks for your hard work and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anju
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Lindsay Kasting <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> l.kasting86 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great work everyone, that was awesome. Such a fun gig. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015 12:21 PM, "Rafael "Cabeza" Manrique" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cabezadevacarecs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Megan! Show went smooth thanks to the volunteers and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the collective members.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bar did well, and we even got a free flat by mistake :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have a flat of beers left.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also place looks/smells clean. Thanks to everyone!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rafael.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-08-11 12:17 GMT-07:00 Megan Speers <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speers.megan at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hey all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just updated the money spreadsheet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show last night was killer, after costs we made about $715.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awesome, esp for a monday.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> megan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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