[Blacklabcollective] cash money

Tue Aug 11 15:19:33 PDT 2015

ahh, i already sent it off. but she also already responded with:
Whoa! Sorry, I was blacked out pretty hard. Not that that's a good excuse
or anything. It won't happen again.

so that basically went as well as it could have.

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:

> May I strongly suggest that you start with:
>
> Hello, the following letter is from the black lab collective group. Myself
> and Jakob are sending it on behalf of the collective and can be your
> contact people if you have questions.
>
> This makes it clear that you are expressing views from a group not
> personally and therefore hopefully you two wouldn't be targeted if it gets
> weird.
>
> No worries if you don't want To do that though!!
>
> On Tuesday, August 11, 2015, Jakob Knudsen <jakob.is at live.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm fine with it
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ugh ok i looked it up on facebook help or whatever and i guess you can
>> only message people from a Page if they've messaged you first. annoying!
>> soooo if everyone is cool with it we can just send it from our personal
>> accounts as a group message from me and jakob?
>> stoopid facebook.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Jakob Knudsen <jakob.is at live.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This seems reasonable to me
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> here is the message i drafted... the beginning preamble may not be
>>> necessary if we can figure out how to send a msg as black lab. lemme know
>>> if there's anything anyone would like me to change! i know it's long but i
>>> like to be thorough.... if anyone has ideas on how to be more succinct im
>>> all ears hahah.
>>>
>>> ---------------
>>>
>>> Hey! My name's Megan, and I help organize with the Black Lab. Jakob is
>>> included in this message and is also a collective member who organizes
>>> shows at Black Lab.
>>>
>>> We're writing you this message because there were concerns over some of
>>> your actions at the Institute and Pleasure Leftists show last night. We saw
>>> that you went onto the stage numerous times during Institute's set and were
>>> groping the singer of the band. There were also complaints from other
>>> people at the show that you were making some people feel uncomfortable.
>>>
>>> We would just like to clarify with you that touching people without
>>> their explicit, ongoing consent is unacceptable within our venue space.
>>>
>>> That means that while you're in the Black Lab, please do not touch
>>> people (whether they are performing or there to enjoy the show too) unless
>>> everyone involved has verbally agreed to it and is stoked. We want everyone
>>> to feel as safe as possible at our shows, and sexual assault (i.e. groping)
>>> makes people feel unsafe. Please also respect that some people won't like
>>> it if you are being very forward with them and may not feel comfortable
>>> saying so. We ask you to try to be mindful of people's boundaries,
>>> including unspoken body language cues that may be more subtle.
>>>
>>> Basically, if someone isn't enthusiastically telling you outright that
>>> they are stoked on you touching them or flirting with them or whatever,
>>> STOP.
>>>
>>> We welcome you to come to future shows at our space, but know that if we
>>> see you doing similar things in the future, we will ask you to leave. We
>>> are happy to talk to you via this message or in person at future shows if
>>> you'd like.
>>>
>>> We also do have a formal safer spaces policy, which you can find here:
>>> http://theblacklabvancouver.tumblr.com/saferspaces
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading!
>>> -megan
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> fyi - its the not the same person from the red gate incident. good idea
>>>> regarding sending it from the black lab facebook
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Rafael "Cabeza" Manrique <
>>>> cabezadevacarecs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I didnt see any of these, but Anthony and Jakob did told me about it.
>>>>> Rafael
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-08-11 13:41 GMT-07:00 Jakob Knudsen <jakob.is at live.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gotcha
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Part of the reason I'm asking is that Red Gate asked me to speak to
>>>>>> someone about gropey behaviour/unwelcome sexual advances at shows and I
>>>>>> know they were at the show last night.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When/if you find out their name, can you please let us know? For
>>>>>>> future reference it's good to keep tabs on people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jakob/Tara - all emails and info are confidential to this list FYI,
>>>>>>> until we have a plan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Megan Speers <
>>>>>>> speers.megan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ok cool. yep that's fine, we can message them together for sure!
>>>>>>>> and im glad that he wasn't feeling too awful. that really sucked.
>>>>>>>> glad he's somewhat ok.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Jakob Knudsen <jakob.is at live.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have their Facebook contact if you'd like to message them
>>>>>>>>> together? Or one or the other of us can message them. I spoke to Mose and
>>>>>>>>> he was ok, he was definitely uncomfortable but Said if he felt unsafe he
>>>>>>>>> would have stopped and asked fr some help
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> haha jakob we totally sent those emails at the same time.
>>>>>>>>> if we can figure out a contact for this person i'd be glad to have
>>>>>>>>> that conversation with them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Jakob Knudsen <jakob.is at live.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There's one thing I'd like to address, someone at the show was
>>>>>>>>>> pretty drunk and during institutes set kept groping and hitting their
>>>>>>>>>> singer, which put a lot of people on edge. I spoke to him after the set and
>>>>>>>>>> he was uncomfortable but said it was ok and he didn't feel unsafe at any
>>>>>>>>>> point. I asked around to see if anyone was farmiliar with them and turns
>>>>>>>>>> out they're new to the city. While I was asking around to see if anyone
>>>>>>>>>> knew them I got a few messages saying they approached others at the show
>>>>>>>>>> inappropriately, it could be worthwhile to reach out to them and explain
>>>>>>>>>> black lab policy in terms of that. Cera talked to them for a bit after the
>>>>>>>>>> show but said she couldn't tell if anything registered. Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Brendan Plummer <
>>>>>>>>>> brendan.plummer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That was a very fun show! Good job everyone!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Awesome work everyone!!! thanks for your hard work and effort!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anju
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Lindsay Kasting <
>>>>>>>>>> l.kasting86 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Great work everyone, that was awesome. Such a fun gig. :)
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2015 12:21 PM, "Rafael "Cabeza" Manrique" <
>>>>>>>>>>> cabezadevacarecs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Megan! Show went smooth thanks to the volunteers and the
>>>>>>>>>>>> collective members.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bar did well, and we even got a free flat by mistake :)
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have a flat of beers left.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also place looks/smells clean. Thanks to everyone!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rafael.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-08-11 12:17 GMT-07:00 Megan Speers <speers.megan at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hey all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just updated the money spreadsheet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> show last night was killer, after costs we made about $715.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> awesome, esp for a monday.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> megan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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