[Blacklabcollective] Saturday events

Sat Aug 1 07:33:38 PDT 2015

Ok, sounds good if you want to take it on, I'm sorry I didn't realize you
had already agreed to that. Long meetings = hard to remember everything!
Thanks Eris, in that case, you know about the sour cream
Etc already because you found it :)

Anju

On Saturday, August 1, 2015, Eris Nyx <erisnyx at hotmail.ca> wrote:

> To chime in,
>
> I still think the plan we discussed earlier could work if the group are
> given keys. I have no problem ensuring the space is clean. Clear boundaries
> about food and waste are important and necessary, but I still believe the
> meetings are a functional use of the space and valuable to the
> neighborhood. While I understand your concerns and am willing to discuss
> further, my two cents are that we continue having the meetings with clear
> boundaries - no food waste or leftovers and storage in a clearly defined
> area, even for something left behind. Again, a one strike you're out policy
> might be the best way to approach this. I was in the space today and tea
> was all over the floor again. I believe this problem is caused by the rats
> running amok but in a way not necessarily related to the meetings. Imagine
> Ratatouille but punk.  Let's try to be diligent about taking out our trash!
>
> -Eris
>
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> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:03:59 -0700
> From: aanjusingh at gmail.com
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> To: blacklabcollective at lists.resist.ca
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> Subject: Re: [Blacklabcollective] Saturday events
>
> I'm into suggesting that they take another weekly venue but that we put
> forward that we will take proposals for workshops they want to do at our
> space, they can pitch it like a show and if someone can take it on, let's
> do it. I would happily host something once in a while for them.
>
> On Friday, July 31, 2015, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aanjusingh at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your perspective. I understand your sentiment for wanting to be
> a space for positive stuff to happen. My concern is that doing this weekly
> and providing keys feels like an overcommitment. I believe we can "do more
> than be just a venue" in other ways too that don't require giving keys to a
> group and/or having a weekly responsibility.
>
> I have suggestions : can someone bottomline these weekly, OR can we offer
> something more sustainable (a monthly workshop?) and have someone
> bottomline those?
>
> I'm interested in workshops more than bottom lining shows, and I have
> proven that by attempting to do different projects. I would happily teach a
> computer course for locals, resume writing or host a discussion group or
> facilitate a once a month meeting like this, but weekly, I think it's an
> overcommitment.
>
> Those are my thoughts maybe talk to others in person for their thoughts?
>
>
>
> On Friday, July 31, 2015, Brendan Plummer <brendan.plummer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> I feel like I have been doing a lot of emotional labour around the
> Saturday meetings. Because of my emotional investment in it, and also my
> desire for the Black Lab to be more than a venue, I can't help but feel
> under siege from the folks in the collective who don't want the meetings to
> happen.
>
> And I agree, it doesn't make anyone 'bad' to not want the meetings,
> although I think there are differences in terms of ideals/vision for what
> the Black Lab could be *about*. I understand people not wanting to take
> on the role of managing the thing, and I was hoping giving Wendy keys would
> alleviate some of the time necessary to facilitate the meetings. Folks have
> multiple other projects/bands going on, and there isn't a lot of space or
> incentive/social capital for the thankless task of helping facilitate
> community events. So let's be realistic, and let Wendy know asap if we want
> to shut it down. She mentioned that they may have another space available
> in the fall, and although she loves the Black Lab because people feel
> comfortable and it has a great location it will not be the end of the world
> to pull the plug on the SRO collaborative if that will ease people's minds.
>
> That won't actually do anything about the rats though, and I agree that it
> should be the landlord's responsibility to deal with pests. So in a lot of
> ways that means that we need to talk about how to broach that one,
> especially with a pending visit from Michael. And that's another
> conversation.
>
> Anyways, I need to laundry but thanks for the response and sorry about the
> emailing ...
>
> <3 B.
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Brenden,
>
> Ya the smell is pretty bad (what happened to your car?).
>
> I asked my co-worker about landlord responsibility in commercial units,
> pests are one of them.
>
> It's not healthy or safe for us to try to clean and resolve a rat problem,
> we need to bring in professional cleaners and pest control (if we want).
> Also I recognize that smell sort of, is it possible there is a dead rat in
> the back somewhere?
>
> Yea it's gross :(
>
> And regarding Saturday's, the many containers of sour cream in the fridge
> is confusing, and yes there was a mess.
>
> I'm sorry you feel like you are defending it, but we do need to discuss
> when things happen, and you shouldn't have to defend it!! But also maybe
> it's ok for us to decide what will happen if we don't have the people to
> manage the project or if we decide to wait to find someone to bottom line
> the sessions instead of giving out keys. It doesn't make us bad people, it
> makes us realistic.
>
> On Friday, July 31, 2015, Brendan Plummer <brendan.plummer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> Just to be clear: the sour cream containers were left out? Or in the
> fridge? I did a quick sweep of the space on Monday eve and things looked
> the same as they were prior to the meeting last Saturday.
>
> When I went down on Saturday to  clean/set up, things were pretty messed
> up from someone leaving food garbage another day (not a saturday, because
> it was someones takeout garbage). My tool bags got shit in and pissed on
> and I am so sick of that smell because of what happened to my car ... so I
> am not stoked on any of this.
>
> Anyways, if there was food garbage left out I will let Wendy know. She
> should have known because we were definitely talking about rats as we
> cleaned up rat shit on Saturday morning. And I don't know what's up with
> the food in the fridge either, that can't be a thing.
>
> There are no meetings for the month of August, so perhaps we should
> revisit this at a meeting. I am getting a little weary of defending this,
> if I am the only person that cares then what's the point of continuing when
> I am gone?
>
> Again, sorry about not ensuring things were legit in the fridge. I have
> had a busy week and haven't been super present in relating to the space
> over the course of the past few days. I hope the show went well last night,
> talk soon.
>
> B.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 30, 2015, at 6:38 PM, Anju Singh <aanjusingh at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > hey everyone
> >
> > I'm not convinced by the Saturday space use without a collective member
> cleaning up after, there are like 8 containers of sour cream in th kitchen
> and the kitchen is a total mess. It stinks like rat piss, there was a shirt
> left behind, I'm not 100% sure about this...
> >
> > The food in the fridge takes away space for beer, it's not really cool :(
> >
> >
> >
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